Should BBSN communities be restricted to locals only?

There has been some concerns about non locals engaging in discussion/debate about sensitive subjects and that has raised some concern for some members who feel the communities should be exclusive to those who live in the area.

Majority of outsiders joining these communities are stil living in New Brunswick, some though originate from other provinces but none from any other country than good ole Canada.

There is many reasons why outsiders join these communities, these are some of the reasons:

– They have family or friends that live in the area and are interested in what is going on.
– They previously lived in the area but still would like to keep up to date.
– They are interested in a hot topic that exists in that area and want to know what is happened from the people, not media.

Although filtering out outsiders one by one in each group is nearly impossible and time consuming with 25 000+ members across NB. Alternately we can essentially revise the rules and regulations to restrict outsiders more then those who live in the area… this would ensure that those who are not living in the area do not stir up and aggravate locals discussing important topics between those who it matters most for.

This topic is up for debate about if anything should be done, and if so how could it be done….

Does the Restigouche region need municipal consolidation of services to see progress in the future?

((This article will be continually updated as discussion and information comes up on social media where it is being posted. If there is inaccurate information it will be corrected, if there is important info, were going to add it. Were going to build an understanding of this subject as a community effort. Links to threads where this article was posted on social media will be added at the bottom of this post to keep track of discussion))

Municipal Consolidation of Services

– Removal of excess of Mayors and Councillors and certain other representatives
– Consolidation & sharing of services.
– Re-structure of government on municipal level.


– Removal duplication of services.
– Regional services be together, water treatment, police contracts, fire department, garbage, tourism, economic development
– Budget increases due to property taxes.
– Representation by taxation in regards to rural communities.
– Less Councillors & mayors and and savings on wages
– Access to new resources due to population size.
– More Focus on recognising and strengthening service hubs
– Smaller amount of politics involved could mean increased cooperation/coordination and efficiency due to lack of competition. 


– Reduced local decision making capacity.
– Greater property tax for rural communities.
– Many Councillors & Mayors will lose their jobs.
– Smaller amount of politics involved could lead to greater corruption.
– Possible that employment in maintenance would be more difficult with much more area/tasks to cover but no hiring to take up the extra work.
– Farmers and those who live in the country will have to adhere to city by-laws
– Land owners who have large areas of land will have increases in land tax beyond anything previously set.

Titles and positions to be lost:

(the numbers that follow are not completely accurate, they are averages as wages of representatives varies from town to city to village. Perhaps we will get more accurate ones as communities discuss this topic)

– Chief administrative officers (There exists 7) within our region, one in each city/town/village. Wages estimated to be at 40k/year each (40000 *6 = 240K saved each year leaving 1 remaining.

– Mayors in region have wages of average 45k per year. If correct, and 6 out of 7 removed there would be savings of 270k per year.

– Average wages of Councillors is 15k/year. There exist about about 23 within our region in various towns/cities. If there is 23 councillors and 11 were removed there would be savings of about 165000/per year leaving 12 to manage the consolidated municipality.

The cuts in these titled positions would save about: 675000$ but there is others not mentioned here along with other factors like travel and expenses for each, all of which which would contribute to even greater savings.

There is a new document released just this week called “Green paper on local governance” ( PDF File ) which addresses many questions and concerns related to amalgamation as the province turns to this process to address the issues of communities all over New Brunswick and Restigouche region is no exception. In this document it outlines some of the opportunities presented with amalgamation and how they can benifet the people of these communities.

I have come across some stats related to our region which I will leave here as they could be useful although they are a bit outdated. Source

(Stats from Marc Savoie Allen and Paquet)



Stats from Marc Savoie Allen and Paquet

Active discussions on social media:

– Campbellton Forum: Link
– Campbellton Community Concerns: Link
– Campbellton Inquiries: Link
– Downhomers R Us!: Link
– Dalhousie Community Concerns: Link
– Miramichi Community Concerns (Poll): Link
– /r/newbrunswickcanada (reddit): Link

Current news related to this subject:

Global News: Municipal associates hopeful as New Brunswick launches green paper on civic
CBC New Brunswick: Rural residents say province’s local government reform will ruin lifestyle
Lexology: Reflection required following responses to public procurement Green Paper
CTV Atlantic: Amalgamation back on the table in New Brunswick

The controversy in Sackville related to community concerns group

First I would like to apologize for some of my impulsive behavior as it does happen from time to time due to  certain racing thoughts I get. I’m a 16 year medicated paranoid schizophrenic. I have yet to have any relapses but surely some close calls especially as the covid epidemic unfolded.

I’ve been doing this Facebook gig for quite some time (7 years) and we have always had groups created all over New Brunswick for many different cities. Our policy has always been that majority of mods and admins on the page were local which was the case for some time. 

With non local admins/mods onboard it gives the community a non bias / non conflict of interest approach to moderating in most cases.

Some members who disagree with mods and admins will form alliances and often form rival communities. Some of these some of these undesirables remain members and “troll” admins and mods as a form of subtle retaliation.

Some people use these groups for political gain, either for themselves or someone close to them.


We strive to have our communities generate organic content

In the early stages we rely heavily on mainstream media for the fuel that drives discussion within our communities but as communities grow they begin to generate their own organic content. After a certain point a communities becomes self perpetuating requiring very little news to be injected.

The organic content often at times becomes the news or a part of the news. Reporters use our communities to sniff out news leads, once they find this within the organic content news articles are written and published. This is not always the case but a fair amount of organic content is unique and valuable to news agencies.

Although each community is unique they all follow a certain pattern when growing. I’ll map out how a community generally grows.

1-1000 members: there is very little discussion or posts being made by members, news if often injected to stimulate discussion. Mods and admins continue to post news until discussion becomes more common. The process of pruning back posts that did not catch on does help consolidate activity and give the appearance of a more active community.

1000-2000 members: This is the turning point as many groups at about 1500 members start to show more discussion and activity while beginning to generate organic posts. Less news needs to be posted. Some communities will begin to become self perpetuating in this stage.

2000-3000 Members: This is a turning point for most groups, activity levels are up, organic content is becoming more common. Mainstream media news and content becomes less common but still a part of the communities from time to time. Majority of communities at this point are self perpetuating although stimulus may still be required depending.

3000-5000 Members: Communities within this stage are self perpetuating and does not need to have news injected. Organic content becomes a regular thing as members feel that the community is a good place for their message to be heard. Moderation becomes more difficult as conflicts and issues with members starts to become a thing. At this point a community will need at least 2-4 mods to manage the day to day.

5000-7000 Members: At this point communities are in their prime, organic content is very common and little if any external news is required. Moderation of community becomes more difficult and the team will require a certain level or coordination to keep the atmosphere from becoming negative.

7000+ Members: Beyond this point it becomes difficult to keep the quality atmosphere that generates the best organic content. Mods and admins will need to be added to the team and will need to coordinate their efforts to handle the ongoing conflicts and issues that arise in a large community as such. If atmosphere is maintained the content from these communities is quite exceptional.

Essentially we strive to keep our communities at 5000-7000 members as this is where the quality of content is the best and the moderation to content output ratio is most ideal. It’s really about quality over quantity.

We have routed our services through google mail servers

It would seem our previous mail server host had issues with certain types of email hosts like gmail and yahoo, that issue has now been corrected which means the support ticket system and our blogs will operate much more smoothly and accurately. With our previous setup communication with certain clients and members would be problematic.

Being able to communicate efficiently with our clients and members is of great importance and thus these changes were made with great success. An even better mail system will be setup in the future but this here is sufficient for now.

We have just setup the “Team” section of the blog

This section here is to help our members get familiar with our team. The team consists of Sysops, Admins and Mods. We all share the responsibility of managing these many communities within our  network allocating team members to hot spots where moderation is required. We do this for free because we love being involved and making some positive change.

You can view our team by clicking here

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This message usually occurs for several reasons:

  • The original post was removed from its organic location.
  • Privacy settings will not allow others to see unless friends with person who made original post.
  • Original Post was created on a non “public” (either closed or secret) community and cannot be shared.
  • Person posting content is blocked or has blocked the mod/admin posting this.

If post was removed from where it originated, unless you have a screenshot there is not much that can be done.

If the post is having privacy setting issues, and is on a facebook personal profile, try to ask the person who posted it to make the post in question post public if possible.

If the privacy setting is related to a group being closed / secret rather than public there is two solutions and that is having it re-posted somewhere public (ex: community / personal fb wall). If this is not possible best way around this is a screenshot of original post with a link to original post if possible out of curiosity.

If person has blocked or was blocked by an admin or mod not much can be done, if OP is a member of our communities he/she may be removed as doing so violates rules and regulations. Blocking mods and admins to avoid moderation intervention on thread is not permitted.

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